New Route – Trivial Pursuit

New Route – Trivial Pursuit

“This application is for adding a bolt to the Mike Brooks and Kyle Copeland aid line Trivial Pursuit. This bolt will allow the route to be freed “safely” at a proposed grade of 5.14.


Route NameTrivial Pursuit
LocationMineral Maze
GradeC2+
FAMike Brooks and Kyle Copeland

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Approve bolt for Trivial Pursuit?

  • No (55%, 17 Votes)
  • Yes (45%, 14 Votes)

Total Voters: 31

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8 replies
  1. Nate Beckwith
    Nate Beckwith says:

    Application seems incomplete and vague. What does “freed “safely”” mean and why is “safely” in quotes? The ACE guidelines are that routes are reasonable as ground-up leads. What does the other protection look like? Is this yet another headpoint such that a qualified 5.14 OS attempt would most likely wind up in the hospital? Should the application really be for 3-4 bolts, or is this really just a directional for top rope bouldering?

    • SteveEldo
      SteveEldo says:

      Nate, last time I checked there is a fixed knifeblade at the start of the route that now “protects” the stand-out crux move. This is where the bolt would presumably go. I rope soloed this back in the early 90s and there is gear after that that would adequately protect an onsight climber. The bolt will allow this to be rehearsed and led ground up safely.

  2. Michal Matyjasik
    Michal Matyjasik says:

    This application needs photos and more information before it can be voted on. As it stands, it doesn’t fulfill all requirements for a new route application.

  3. mikeschlauch
    mikeschlauch says:

    All – here is more detail. This has been a long standing project for some locals. It was originally worked on by placing a yellow alien at the start, clipping a pin, and then working the crux. The pin eventually fell out. The proposed bolt will be in the same vicinity as the pin and will protect the crux. After the dyno crux, there is a #2 camalot placement from a jug, followed by another cam soon after. Then easier climbing to the top.

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8 replies
  1. Nate Beckwith
    Nate Beckwith says:

    Application seems incomplete and vague. What does “freed “safely”” mean and why is “safely” in quotes? The ACE guidelines are that routes are reasonable as ground-up leads. What does the other protection look like? Is this yet another headpoint such that a qualified 5.14 OS attempt would most likely wind up in the hospital? Should the application really be for 3-4 bolts, or is this really just a directional for top rope bouldering?

    • SteveEldo
      SteveEldo says:

      Nate, last time I checked there is a fixed knifeblade at the start of the route that now “protects” the stand-out crux move. This is where the bolt would presumably go. I rope soloed this back in the early 90s and there is gear after that that would adequately protect an onsight climber. The bolt will allow this to be rehearsed and led ground up safely.

  2. Michal Matyjasik
    Michal Matyjasik says:

    This application needs photos and more information before it can be voted on. As it stands, it doesn’t fulfill all requirements for a new route application.

  3. mikeschlauch
    mikeschlauch says:

    All – here is more detail. This has been a long standing project for some locals. It was originally worked on by placing a yellow alien at the start, clipping a pin, and then working the crux. The pin eventually fell out. The proposed bolt will be in the same vicinity as the pin and will protect the crux. After the dyno crux, there is a #2 camalot placement from a jug, followed by another cam soon after. Then easier climbing to the top.

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